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gunyalizop wrote:
Could the elite UAV become the counter for the helicopter meta? techzpod.com mobdro app
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crazystoner wrote:
" . . . a bad commander needs to know every little detail, a good commander has already won the battle. . . ."
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crazystoner wrote:
I personally have found UAV's are a waste of money, a bad commander needs to know every little detail, a good commander has already won the battle.
For me UAV's are among my favourite units. They go in, after I defeat enemy planes. They give me perfect info about battleground which is priceless.
They are cheap so no big deal, when losing some. And I prefer to lose them instead of other aircrafts, in case they mean good anti-air enemy.
As I play often with airforce, they give me deep into enemy knowledge where to hit next to clear the land, which is taken without fighting, by infantry.
This is fastest way to conquer in game and UAV's are awesome part of it.
It can be played without them, but seeing everything, gives great comfort.
I use them often and active players also use them often, as I see.
Good commander try to get any possible advantage over enemy and info about enemy troops, where they are, how many and so on, is one of those advantages.
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everyone using uav seems like enemy never use sam?This post was made by Leader of the Church of ROAD
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AA in general are rarely used by the average public player, that is why strikers are such a dominant occurrence
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@Germanico I have a great idea to counter striker dominance in public games...add active AA defense to normal inf (such as ranged attack)...
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KFGauss wrote:
crazystoner wrote:
" . . . a bad commander needs to know every little detail, a good commander has already won the battle. . . ."
Seroslav wrote:
crazystoner wrote:
I personally have found UAV's are a waste of money, a bad commander needs to know every little detail, a good commander has already won the battle.
Bad commander do not understand the worth of good intel.
While i do agree good intel is well worth having, i do find that aircraft and spies give the same sort of intelligence, its just about ones ability to decipher it.
For example, i can strike a target, and roughly figure out its composition, size and strength, and while its nice to have a UAV give you the information perfectly and without causing aggression i do find on many occasions that they just initiate wars, players can't help themselves but to shoot them down when spotted. But the biggest issue is the drain on the economy, and furthermore the drain on production industry. Its these reasons i don't consider them viable, not only do they result in moral issues but they limit the size of your armed force. I do believe the elite UAV deployable will limit some of these issues but ultimately id rather just have Special forces.
You see this issue with AA and theatre defence systems, the investment to generate these assets are hardly of value for the offensive missions that is CON global war.
Sometimes you need to take a few nuclear strikes, on your home cities, but its desperation as its not a winning strategy to kill innocent civilians against an ever expanding force with a massive military force.
More so when the counter attacks of nuclear force are striking your military assets. This is the fundamental reason why even stealth nuclear armed UAV's are of limited use, even in large numbers unless you have a massive stockpile of the most advanced cruise missiles but there is a very narrow window of opportunity. Bit of fun for a gold spammer but not a realistic battle strategy.
While one could argue 1 or 2 is enough to serve the purpose, the question becomes how long will they last.
Which is where i think elite UAV will serve their purpose rather well, but ultimately a good commander doesn't need to sit back and wait for valid intelligence, they will already have a military force capable of crushing their enemies in decisive battles again and again. Doesn't matter their rank, how many friends they have, if you are not going into battle on multiple fronts against massive odds and expecting victory. You just waiting for an inevitable defeat.
For me, simply looking at cities composition, do they have dockyards, army bases, airports, how many, what level is each. Looking at CON news for causality reports, are their battles one sided then ultimately sending in fighter aircraft to get visuals of armour, infantry or artillery and depending, striking the target and calculating damage taken. One could argue Radar gives the same capability as UAV's in this regard without the inherit weakness of showing your hand and its limited scope of intelligence. Sort of the trade between situational awareness and detail, while detail is great, like any and all intelligence their is compounding evidence of enemy forces, rather then a reliance on a single UAV. -
My reply is still, "Nope".
You can read why that's my reply by reading previous discussions about this exact subject in other threads.
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KFGauss wrote:
My reply is still, "Nope".
You can read why that's my reply by reading previous discussions about this exact subject in other threads.
The title of this thread is "Season 7 Teaser".
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a good con player should know that uav is not the only thing that reveal enemy. province already good enough.
indeed that more information is useful. but don’t over extended or you just being insecure about information you already have on hand and raise your head above cover to count the ants.This post was made by Leader of the Church of ROAD -
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exactlyThis post was made by Leader of the Church of ROAD
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kurtvonstein wrote:
No need for intel if you use the doctrine of overwhelming forces...
A radar, 10 mrls and a couple of SAM as backup...thats how I scout.
I simply read the newspaper...
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Is it known already when the 7th Season starts?
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kurtvonstein wrote:
No need for intel if you use the doctrine of overwhelming forces...
A radar, 10 mrls and a couple of SAM as backup...thats how I scout.
I simply read the newspaper...
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Capt_Rodgers wrote:
kurtvonstein wrote:
No need for intel if you use the doctrine of overwhelming forces...
A radar, 10 mrls and a couple of SAM as backup...thats how I scout.
I simply read the newspaper...
What you described is basically “research everything”. Throughout the game you will have to make compromises depending on your country, your economy, and the tactics of your enemy. Somewhere, there will inevitably be holes in your military that could be exploited. Not saying the stack above is necessarily well defended, though some ASF could fix thatYee Haw -
It sounds pretty Day 18-ish as a situation, but the general idea is thereRunning an online alliance is pretty much like running a small company, except you need to find other way than money to keep your employees productive. May they play or work, they are humans.
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kurtvonstein wrote:
@Germanico I have a great idea to counter striker dominance in public games...add active AA defense to normal inf (such as ranged attack)...
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Colonel Waffles wrote:
Capt_Rodgers wrote:
kurtvonstein wrote:
No need for intel if you use the doctrine of overwhelming forces...
A radar, 10 mrls and a couple of SAM as backup...thats how I scout.
I simply read the newspaper...
What you described is basically “research everything”. Throughout the game you will have to make compromises depending on your country, your economy, and the tactics of your enemy. Somewhere, there will inevitably be holes in your military that could be exploited. Not saying the stack above is necessarily well defended, though some ASF could fix that
Btw my stats are not that great as most of yours but I played enough games to understand what you're saying. But still your way of playing is quite good but far from unbeatable
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