Pinned British Tech tree/Skin (Work in progress)

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    • Oceanhawk wrote:

      Emm, there wont always be one threat, and the intersts of many nations will be dominated by the corrupt socialists in Brussels. An EU army would be horrible. An Army is a position of nationalism and loyalty to ones nation, I would happily serve for my country. But I couldnt go and fight for some other nations in the EU....

      ,y armed forces should never be put under foreign General's. We swear an oath to defend Ireland, not "Europe" although we should fight side by side with our European allies when the time comes, but we dont fight for them we fight with them.

      And What if European interest goes against Irish interest? Or the Spanish Interest?
      I see your point, but what about NATO?

      And right now, the one military threat Europe faces is Russia.


      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Maybe Im going a tad extreme here, but I cannot continue to see the similarities of this to the 1930s..
      IS The EU is the historical successor to the Third Reich? consider how the SS was created as an autonomous political tool beyond the regular Germany army and how its power grew incrementally. The planned EU Army and NATO bear a similar relationship to that of the SS and the Wehrmacht. Consider also the defining mission of the Pan European Waffen SS which was “to defend European civilization from Jewish Bolshevism” and the EU Army’s guiding principle of, as Juncker states it- “defending EU values from Russia.”
      Yo, the Eu is horrified by Nazism (but not by Communism), so I doubt that will ever happen.

      This is something that I respect all opinions.


      #GoForThe18th
    • Pablo22510 wrote:

      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Emm, there wont always be one threat, and the intersts of many nations will be dominated by the corrupt socialists in Brussels. An EU army would be horrible. An Army is a position of nationalism and loyalty to ones nation, I would happily serve for my country. But I couldnt go and fight for some other nations in the EU....

      ,y armed forces should never be put under foreign General's. We swear an oath to defend Ireland, not "Europe" although we should fight side by side with our European allies when the time comes, but we dont fight for them we fight with them.

      And What if European interest goes against Irish interest? Or the Spanish Interest?
      I see your point, but what about NATO?
      And right now, the one military threat Europe faces is Russia.


      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Maybe Im going a tad extreme here, but I cannot continue to see the similarities of this to the 1930s..
      IS The EU is the historical successor to the Third Reich? consider how the SS was created as an autonomous political tool beyond the regular Germany army and how its power grew incrementally. The planned EU Army and NATO bear a similar relationship to that of the SS and the Wehrmacht. Consider also the defining mission of the Pan European Waffen SS which was “to defend European civilization from Jewish Bolshevism” and the EU Army’s guiding principle of, as Juncker states it- “defending EU values from Russia.”
      Yo, the Eu is horrified by Nazism (but not by Communism), so I doubt that will ever happen.
      This is something that I respect all opinions.
      And you still want a EU Army?



      Who is not to say that tomorrow there will be new threat?

      Im saying that the parallels between the EU and the Nazis are worth Noting. And Nazis stood for nationalist socialist party ( maybe there was another word in there I have missed) But EU run by corrupt socialists. EU was great back in the early days, but eventually many great things grow big and grow dishonest. I think Brexit was good, because it gonna hopefully be the downfall of the EU and it will be replaced with something that works for free trade. A US-EU free trade deal ... should been here a long time ago, EU has too many socialists to want that and is heading towards a protectionist stance.









      Use Helicopters, Special forces or Stealth. Use your head to play - not the missile button. - Germanico
    • Pablo22510 wrote:

      Yo, there's an intermediate step between saying the EU is corrupt and that there are parallels with the Nazis.

      But we're going OT (like in the good old days), so let's get back on track.
      I dont know anymore, like the fact that the EU are planning on bullying UK after they leave... is...

      I certainly hope Ireland doesnt decide to screw over the UK and turn our backs on them like brussels wants to. The Dutch wont Id say they will be #2 to leave. Then maybe Italy or greece.



      Anyway maybe make a different post, haha. Cos we sailing towards the good ole days haha


      updating the list now^









      Use Helicopters, Special forces or Stealth. Use your head to play - not the missile button. - Germanico
    • Tanks:

      1. Chieftain MK 11 (Instead of the MBT 80)

      Mobile Artillery:

      1.FV432M (Mortar Variant)


      Mobile Anti-Air Vehicle:
      1. Falcon SPAAG
      2. Chieftain Marksman
      3. Challenger Marksman
      Attack Helicopter
      1. Westland Lynx AH 7 TOW 2 or Lynx 3
      Air Superiority Fighter:

      1. Harrier GR.7 (Instead of Tornado)

      Naval Air Superiority Fighter:

      1. Sea Harrier FRS.1
      2. Sea Harrier FA.2
      3. F-35B (STOVL Variant with external hardpoints so non stealth.)

      Naval Strike Fighter:
      1. Supermarine Scimitar
      2. Blackburn Buccaneer
      3. British Aerospace Harrier II
      And yeah, the british don't really have a variety of units at all.
      Celerriter et Audax (Swift and Bold)
    • yuenjanson wrote:

      Tanks:

      1. Chieftain MK 11 (Instead of the MBT 80)

      Mobile Artillery:

      1.FV432M (Mortar Variant)


      Mobile Anti-Air Vehicle:
      1. Falcon SPAAG
      2. Chieftain Marksman
      3. Challenger Marksman
      Attack Helicopter
      1. Westland Lynx AH 7 TOW 2 or Lynx 3
      Air Superiority Fighter:

      1. Harrier GR.7 (Instead of Tornado)

      Naval Air Superiority Fighter:

      1. Sea Harrier FRS.1
      2. Sea Harrier FA.2
      3. F-35B (STOVL Variant with external hardpoints so non stealth.)

      Naval Strike Fighter:
      1. Supermarine Scimitar
      2. Blackburn Buccaneer
      3. British Aerospace Harrier II
      And yeah, the british don't really have a variety of units at all.
      F-35 is the crappy american version

      but thks for the help :P

      Im am going to make it a "British Common Wealth" Tree,and include some south african tech and that completes most of it. I have a draft on my PC and will post it later.









      Use Helicopters, Special forces or Stealth. Use your head to play - not the missile button. - Germanico
    • yuenjanson wrote:

      Just going to add that if the British doctrine is added, their tanks should have the highest hitpoints out of all the tanks, and best spec ops stats. Their anti air is, well... Meh. Guess Britain is a good country for tank rushes.
      Yea, anyway I think It may work out better for France to leave the europe tech tree. Either France or UK need to remain in the European tree and I think may work out better if France get their own









      Use Helicopters, Special forces or Stealth. Use your head to play - not the missile button. - Germanico
    • Oceanhawk wrote:

      Tank Destroyer:

      ?

      FV102 Striker

      FV438 Swingfire
      1. FV438 Swingfire
      2. FV102 Striker
      3. PL-01 (Light Tank being developed by UK and Poland)
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PL-01


      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Main Battle Tank:


      MBT-80

      Challenger 1

      Challenger 2
      MBT-80 Really, what about the Chieftain MK.11? MBT-80 didn't even exist. Chieftain was replaced by the Challenger 1.

      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Mobile Anti-Air Vehicle:

      ?

      ?

      ?
      1. Marksman SPAAG
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marksman_anti-aircraft_system
      2. G6 Marksman
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G6_howitzer
      3. Leopard Marksman
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marksman_anti-aircraft_system

      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Helicopter Gunship:

      Westland Gazelle

      Westland Lynx

      ?
      Attack Helicopter


      Westland AW159 Wildcat AH1

      Augustawestland Apache
      Gunships: (British use their Apaches in a anti-infantry capacity)
      Gazelle
      AH-1 Apache
      AH-1E Guardian

      Attack Helicopters: (Lynx helicopter family ins't very good at anti infantry, better in AT role)
      Lynx AH 1
      Super Lynx AH 7A
      Wildcat AH1

      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Air Superiority Fighter:


      Panavia Tornado IDS

      Panavia Tornado ADV

      Eurofighter Typhoon
      Woo Woo Woo Panavia Tornado IDS has been used 3 times! in this tech tree. The Panavia Tornado IDS is the Tornado GR1 and GR4 it is literally the same plane. RAF removed IDS and just added the GR instead. It's literally the British designation for the Tornado IDS. Everyone else in Europe calls it the IDS. It's not air-air at all. The English Electric Lighting would be a much better Tier 1 Fighter. The Tornado ADV replaced it in service, which was later kind of replaced by the Typhoon (More of a cost saving measure).

      1. English Electric Lighting
      2. Tornado ADV
      3. Eurofighter Typhoon
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Electric_Lightning

      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Naval Patrol Aircraft:

      ?

      Hawker Nimrod

      BAE Nimrod MRA4
      Demote the Nimrods and add the P-8 Poseidon as the Tier 3.

      Oceanhawk wrote:

      AWACS:


      British Aerospace Nimrod AEW3

      ?

      ?
      Sentinel R1 (Tier 1 or 2?) Closest thing to a AWACs in RAF service
      E-3 Sentry. (Tier 3)


      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Naval Air Superiority Fighter:
      1. FG.1 Phantom (British Variant of F-4 Phantom)
      2. Sea Harrier FA.2 (FAA used their harriers in air superiority role as well unlike RAF Harriers which were purely strike aircraft)
      3. British Aerospace P.125 (Supersonic Fighter Replacement for the Harrier)





      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Stealth Strike Fighter:
      I know you don't like it but the RAF and FAA are buying the F-35B variant which Britain is partially constructing and helped to develop.Although Rubbish as we previously stated it will be Britain Stealth Strike Fighter. Either that or you use the BAe Replica (Stupid name) which was a stealth strike proposed to replace the Tornado IDS.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Replica




      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Stealth Air Superiority Fighter:
      Britain is designing a Stealthy Air Superiority Fighter for Turkey. Closest you will get to a British Stealth Air Superiority Aircraft.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TAI_TFX





      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Amphibious Combat Vehicle:


      FV437 Pathfinder vehicle

      ?

      Jackal/MWMIK
      None of Vehicles you have suggested are amphibious combat vehicles. But these are Amphibious combat vehicles used by the British Military (Minus the Super AV, which being designed by a British Company for the US Military)

      1. Viking
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BvS_10

      2. Warthog
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronco_All_Terrain_Tracked_Carrier

      3.MPC Super AV
      (Possible Replacement for AAV-7A1, will be built by BAe)
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iveco_SuperAV




      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Aircraft Carrier:

      ... Malta Class

      Invincible class

      Queen Elizabeth class
      Malta class? Wtf that's a world war 2 carrier and wasn't even built.

      Centaur Aircraft Carrier is what your looking for
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centaur-class_aircraft_carrier




      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Corvette:


      Castle Class

      River Class Batch 1

      River Class Batch 2
      Castle Class, once again WTF. It's a world war 2 Corvette!!! River Class are patrol Ships. Britain designs and builds corvettes, We don't use them.

      1. Qahir Class
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qahir-class_corvette

      2. Bung Tomo Class

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bung_Tomo-class_corvette


      3. Khareef Class
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khareef-class_corvette





      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Cruiser:

      .... need some help here,
      1. Tiger Class (Only post war cruiser RN had)
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger-class_cruiser

      I would just go American for the others :(



      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Heavy Bomber:


      Vickers Valiant

      Handley Page Victor

      Avro Vulcan


      Stealth Bomber:
      ...
      Get rid of the Valiant it was put into service alongside the Victor.
      Promote the Victor to tier 1 and Vulcan to tier 2. Because Britain was going to join the supersonic bomber club back in the cold war.

      1. Handley Page Victor
      2. Avro Vulcan
      3. BAC TSR.2
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAC_TSR-2

      Stealth Bomber negative on Radar I'm Afraid. But you could use the Taranis UCAV and make it the Taranis Bomber. It's the closest thing we have to a Stealth bomber
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Taranis




      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Theater Defense System:


      ?

      ?

      Eurosam SAMP/T (ASTERS)
      Go European, we have nothing


      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Multiple Rocket Launcher:
      Go American, once again we have nothing (Well MLRS M270)


      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Mobile Artillery:

      ???

      FV433 Abbot SPG

      L131 AS-90
      Demote the FV433 and AS-90
      1. FV433 Abbot
      2. AS-90
      3. AHS Krab (British/Polish/ South Korea Self Propelled Tracked Propelled Howitzer)
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AHS_Krab



      This should complete the tech tree
    • Lord Aodhan wrote:

      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Helicopter Gunship:

      Westland Gazelle

      Westland Lynx

      ?
      Attack Helicopter


      Westland AW159 Wildcat AH1

      Augustawestland Apache
      Gunships: (British use their Apaches in a anti-infantry capacity)Gazelle
      AH-1 Apache
      AH-1E Guardian

      Attack Helicopters: (Lynx helicopter family ins't very good at anti infantry, better in AT role)
      Lynx AH 1
      Super Lynx AH 7A
      Wildcat AH1




      Remember they going to have to make 3 tier skins progressions for these. Dont think it is great with the lynx being the attack choppers.

      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Air Superiority Fighter:


      Panavia Tornado IDS

      Panavia Tornado ADV

      Eurofighter Typhoon
      Woo Woo Woo Panavia Tornado IDS has been used 3 times! in this tech tree. The Panavia Tornado IDS is the Tornado GR1 and GR4 it is literally the same plane. RAF removed IDS and just added the GR instead. It's literally the British designation for the Tornado IDS. Everyone else in Europe calls it the IDS. It's not air-air at all. The English Electric Lighting would be a much better Tier 1 Fighter. The Tornado ADV replaced it in service, which was later kind of replaced by the Typhoon (More of a cost saving measure).
      1. English Electric Lighting
      2. Tornado ADV
      3. Eurofighter Typhoon
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Electric_Lightning






      Im just straight out stuck here, hence I was going to make this a "Commonwealth" Tech tree, add in the South African cheetah as tier 1. I just think the Lighting is pretty damn ugly.

      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Naval Patrol Aircraft:

      ?

      Hawker Nimrod

      BAE Nimrod MRA4
      Demote the Nimrods and add the P-8 Poseidon as the Tier 3.
      (Yea Im leaving the non british additions to complete it till last)

      Oceanhawk wrote:

      AWACS:


      British Aerospace Nimrod AEW3

      ?

      ?
      Sentinel R1 (Tier 1 or 2?) Closest thing to a AWACs in RAF serviceE-3 Sentry. (Tier 3)

      (Yea gonna add in the non british completions last)

      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Naval Air Superiority Fighter:
      1. FG.1 Phantom (British Variant of F-4 Phantom)2. Sea Harrier FA.2 (FAA used their harriers in air superiority role as well unlike RAF Harriers which were purely strike aircraft)
      3. British Aerospace P.125 (Supersonic Fighter Replacement for the Harrier)

      Yep, good call with the Phantom. Did they even draw a sketch of the P.125?


      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Stealth Strike Fighter:
      I know you don't like it but the RAF and FAA are buying the F-35B variant which Britain is partially constructing and helped to develop.Although Rubbish as we previously stated it will be Britain Stealth Strike Fighter. Either that or you use the BAe Replica (Stupid name) which was a stealth strike proposed to replace the Tornado IDS.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Replica




      Haha, I have heard of it before. Is there even a sketch or anything?


      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Stealth Air Superiority Fighter:
      Britain is designing a Stealthy Air Superiority Fighter for Turkey. Closest you will get to a British Stealth Air Superiority Aircraft.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TAI_TFX



      Yea, that could work.

      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Amphibious Combat Vehicle:


      FV437 Pathfinder vehicle

      ?

      Jackal/MWMIK
      None of Vehicles you have suggested are amphibious combat vehicles. But these are Amphibious combat vehicles used by the British Military (Minus the Super AV, which being designed by a British Company for the US Military)
      1. Viking
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BvS_10

      2. Warthog
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronco_All_Terrain_Tracked_Carrier

      3.MPC Super AV
      (Possible Replacement for AAV-7A1, will be built by BAe)
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iveco_SuperAV

      Didnt want to add the Warthog in, but the super AV is fine. Good get :P


      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Aircraft Carrier:

      ... Malta Class

      Invincible class

      Queen Elizabeth class
      Malta class? Wtf that's a world war 2 carrier and wasn't even built.
      Centaur Aircraft Carrier is what your looking for
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centaur-class_aircraft_carrier


      Hehe, yea but sure I didnt want to use the Centaur. They added the ski jump later and I didnt notice that ha. That fine. Fits perfect!

      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Corvette:


      Castle Class

      River Class Batch 1

      River Class Batch 2
      Castle Class, once again WTF. It's a world war 2 Corvette!!! River Class are patrol Ships. Britain designs and builds corvettes, We don't use them.
      1. Qahir Class
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qahir-class_corvette

      2. Bung Tomo Class

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bung_Tomo-class_corvette


      3. Khareef Class
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khareef-class_corvette




      Doesnt sound very british now I must say.. River class can stay, best kick the Castleclass then :/





      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Cruiser:

      .... need some help here,
      1. Tiger Class (Only post war cruiser RN had)en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger-class_cruiser

      I would just go American for the others :(

      Yea... See when we have the Brexit from the Euroskins, gotta keep in mind that tree too. Tiger class is being used there but we will move it here. The peruvians had some sort of Cruiser Made by the Dutch we can add in. Just hope it isnt too out of date to be added.

      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Heavy Bomber:


      Vickers Valiant

      Handley Page Victor

      Avro Vulcan


      Stealth Bomber:
      ...
      Get rid of the Valiant it was put into service alongside the Victor.Promote the Victor to tier 1 and Vulcan to tier 2. Because Britain was going to join the supersonic bomber club back in the cold war.

      1. Handley Page Victor
      2. Avro Vulcan
      3. BAC TSR.2
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAC_TSR-2

      Stealth Bomber negative on Radar I'm Afraid. But you could use the Taranis UCAV and make it the Taranis Bomber. It's the closest thing we have to a Stealth bomber
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Taranis



      Yea, I didnt at the TSR for a reason. Isnt really a bomber compared to the Vulcan. Seemed really like a big strike aircraft. Id say it could fit better in the tier 1. But the Vulcan is much better suited for the tier 3.




      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Theater Defense System:


      ?

      ?

      Eurosam SAMP/T (ASTERS)
      Go European, we have nothing


      Yea... :/

      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Multiple Rocket Launcher:
      Go American, once again we have nothing (Well MLRS M270)

      Yea... :/

      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Mobile Artillery:

      ???

      FV433 Abbot SPG

      L131 AS-90
      Demote the FV433 and AS-901. FV433 Abbot
      2. AS-90
      3. AHS Krab (British/Polish/ South Korea Self Propelled Tracked Propelled Howitzer)
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AHS_Krab

      Hmm... good yea, didnt think of that. But really want that to be tier 3 ?

      This should complete the tech tree


      I had been hesitating to to add the Non British stuff till last
      I have no idea how to break up the quote and take on 1 thing at a time. Anyway

      Put all my comments in dark bold blue. How I break up Quotes? Been in CoN and CoW forums for ages and still have no idea









      Use Helicopters, Special forces or Stealth. Use your head to play - not the missile button. - Germanico
    • Well the Krab SPG is the most advanced variant of the AS-90 hence why I put it as tier-3.

      The TRS.2 Can carry the same bomb-load as the Vulcan can fly faster and lower. As well as launching Cruise Missiles. It's more of a tactical Bomber, but not a strike fighter. It has no air defense capability unlike the F-111 Aardvark. The TRS.2 would probably been a much better bomber than the Aardvark but the Aardvark had some multi-role capabilities. Hence why the RAF selected it over the TRS.2 and also because it was meant to be cheaper. The TRS.2 at it's heart was a strategic nuclear bomber, it just wasn't as big as the B-1 Lancer, Tu-22M or Tu-160 Supersonic heavy bombers.

      Didnt want to add the Warthog in, but the super AV is fine. Good get :P well those are only amphibious assault vehicles and the Viking is tailored to British service much like the Warthog is.

      Doesnt sound very british now I must say.. River class can stay, best kick the Castleclass then It doesn't have to sound British to be British. These are our only corvettes. If your going to use river class make it tier 1. The tier 2 Bung Tomo class actually has an alternative designation that is not a Asian name, F2000 Corvette. The Khareef Class is the most advanced Corvette we have produced and the type 31 Frigate will borrow heavily from it's design. Besides these were all designed and made in Britain it's just the Royal Navy didn't procure any of these because they are Idiots. The UK needs Corvettes, not overpriced patrol boats. I also quite like the Khareef name, it means autumn. So if you want to scrap the Arab Names then I suggest call them this instead

      1. Victorious class Corvette (Qahir Class)
      2. F2000 (Bung Tomo)
      3. Autumn Class Corvette (Khareef)


      Haha, I have heard of it before. Is there even a sketch or anything?
      Yes there is I will add it as attachment

      BAe replica.jpg

      BAE_replica_2.jpg

      Kind of looks like a YF-23.

      Here is the TFX as well
      BAe and TAI_TFX.jpeg

      Yep, good call with the Phantom. Did they even draw a sketch of the P.125?
      Sorry. It's actually the P.1154 sorry my mistake. Kind of looks like a Harrier and a F-4 Phantom had a Baby. Yh they drew stretches, they even made the engines. But scrapped it in favor of the subsonic harrier for cost reasons.

      P.125.jpg


      p1154 RN.jpg


      South African cheetah as tier 1. I just think the Lighting is pretty damn ugly. Lighting maybe ugly but it was a our premier air superiority fighter of it's time and the first British Fighter to reach Mach 2. The Cheetah isn't South African, sure it was made there. But it was based off a French Mirage IV and designed by Israelis for the Apartheid government of South Africa since they were under sanctions and couldn't buy them off the French. If you want a British Tech Tree use British equipment when it is available. Besides I've always found the MiG-23 and F-5 tiger to be pretty ugly looking so it will fit right in.

      bac lighting.jpg
      To me it's like MiG-21 on steroids. It's ugly but that shouldn't be a reason to keep it out of the tech tree now I've finished it for you.

      Remember they going to have to make 3 tier skins progressions for these. Dont think it is great with the lynx being the attack choppers.
      The Lynx AH models have pretty much zero anti-infantry capacity apart from machine guns used by the crew chief. They use radar and anti-tank guided missiles. The Super Lynx is the second generation Lynx and the Wildcat the third generation. The wildcat does look substantially different from the other two lynx helicopters. But the Super Lynx AH7 was a significant upgrade over the Lynx AH1. The reason I put them in the attack class is simply because they are good tank hunters. The Apache models are used by Britain in a anti-infantry capacity against insurgents. Their 30mm and unguided rockets pods are heavily used. The Lynx doesn't have this Infantry chewing ability hence why I put it in Tank Hunters (Attack Helicopters). Surely similar looking aircraft makes it easier on the developers? Their is one major disgusting feature that can Seperate the Earlier Lynx AH1 to the Super Lynx AH7. AH7 served during the gulf war so were given a light tan color scheme and big bulky dust protectors for their engines. They were fairly similar externally to the AH1, but internally the AH7 was a big upgrade.
      Files
      • p1154-raf22.jpg

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    • Lord Aodhan wrote:

      Oceanhawk wrote:

      Like I take your quote, break it up so I can type my bit. Then do the next part.
      Insert your Quotes your press Enter in between each one to break them up so you can type underneath. Other than I don't know either
      I think I figured it out thks :P

      anyway, I will update all this and finished off. And tag the big guy to see what he thinks









      Use Helicopters, Special forces or Stealth. Use your head to play - not the missile button. - Germanico
    • Oceanhawk wrote:

      anyway, I will update all this and finished off. And tag the big guy to see what he thinks
      Well it's all finished now. So he will probably like it. But I would say it would take a while until it's implement. Some of the animation skins can be transfered over from the European Skin which would save time. I reckon they will focus adding all the additional unit animations like they've are doing recently with every update. But I can imagine this tech tree and the Chinese one maybe introduced in a future update down the line. Will just have to be patient and wait for the developers to finish current projects relating to the game. I've also started my own skin. East Asia doctrine. Compromising of South Korea, Taiwan, Japan and Singapore. Our little conversation inspired me to create one and see how far I could go before running into trouble with gaps. So far it's like 60% Indigenous East Asian. But I'm running into trouble with the Naval aspects of it (Submarines, Aircraft Carriers, Naval Aircraft, ICBMs) it's largely filled out other than that. I have however been forced to use US bombers. But I figure since the British Skin will share bombers with Europe it won't be such a big deal.
    • Lord Aodhan wrote:

      Oceanhawk wrote:

      anyway, I will update all this and finished off. And tag the big guy to see what he thinks
      Well it's all finished now. So he will probably like it. But I would say it would take a while until it's implement. Some of the animation skins can be transfered over from the European Skin which would save time. I reckon they will focus adding all the additional unit animations like they've are doing recently with every update. But I can imagine this tech tree and the Chinese one maybe introduced in a future update down the line. Will just have to be patient and wait for the developers to finish current projects relating to the game. I've also started my own skin. East Asia doctrine. Compromising of South Korea, Taiwan, Japan and Singapore. Our little conversation inspired me to create one and see how far I could go before running into trouble with gaps. So far it's like 60% Indigenous East Asian. But I'm running into trouble with the Naval aspects of it (Submarines, Aircraft Carriers, Naval Aircraft, ICBMs) it's largely filled out other than that. I have however been forced to use US bombers. But I figure since the British Skin will share bombers with Europe it won't be such a big deal.
      That true, but its more the case that the British bombers that are not in British tree will be used.


      Maybe make a thread and post it up? even just for fun, I may have some ideas. Doubt there be an issue with attack submarines. Missile submarines, there isnt really any Im afraid. Naval patrol, Japan have a few. But yea, will struggle a lot with the naval aircraft. Its fun doing them, just the carriers and gang, missile subs and bombers usually ruin the day









      Use Helicopters, Special forces or Stealth. Use your head to play - not the missile button. - Germanico
    • Pablo22510 wrote:

      For now, Russia.
      Russia isn't the Only threat to the EU. The USA could be a threat is the United States see Europe challenging it's foreign policy or trying to make NATO obsolete.

      Turkey is constantly threatening Europe and especially Greece. The South Eastern European countries (Greece, Bulgaria, Romania) are more threatened by Turkey than Russia.

      The Balkans is still a mess. Everyone hates Serbia and Serbia is still pissed at NATO and Albania over Kosovo.

      The UK is actually the Biggest threat to the EU due to Brexit.

      And let's not forget Ethnic national or Separatist and Islamic Terrorism which is actually killing Europeans.

      Russia is more a threat to NATO. Besides Geo-politically the EU is good for Russia since it makes them less dependent on Russia-phobic America. If the EU broke up everyone would fold back into NATO and love the US again. Russians want to end NATO not necessarily the EU which I believe is their biggest trading partner outside the Former states.