Restricted Airspace Feature

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    • Restricted Airspace Feature

      I've requested this many times, but can we please get a restricted airspace feature? Flying into foreign air space should give the player violating a sovereign state's air space a warning message "The provoked nation will have the right to shoot down your aircraft if they deem your presence a threat" or something along those lines.Players should be allowed to shoot down foreign aircraft flying over their territory without it changing the relation status to war. It makes no sense that I literally just flew my fighters through Colombian and Peruvian air space freely, setting the patrol points in the ocean, but flying from angles that would make my aircraft fly over their territories.
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    • Well do you have anti-aircraft or this player playing as Colombia have it or is he hostile towards you why do you even care or patrolling the waters over him. There is a warning when you drag your plane over his land (without right of way) look use this to your advantage patrol his lands



      We don't surrender,we win or we die-Omar Mukhtar
      من المبالغة أن ندعو إعلان حماس والجهاد الإسلامي عن تحالف عسكري. إنها رسالة بأن شعبنا متحد في وجه العدوان الإسرائيلي - أحمد ياسين



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    • Huthayfah.k wrote:

      Well do you have anti-aircraft or this player playing as Colombia have it or is he hostile towards you why do you even care or patrolling the waters over him. There is a warning when you drag your plane over his land (without right of way) look use this to your advantage patrol his lands



      We don't surrender,we win or we die-Omar Mukhtar
      I did this to prove a point and to argue my opinions. I understand that if you set patrol orders directly over a another players' country, it auto-declares war. But, I'm talking about when players set patrol orders over the ocean and fly in from an angle which takes their planes over another player. Many players use that as a way to gather intel, and it just makes no sense.

      Realistically, the invasive aircraft would be intercepted and shot down if they did not turn back. But, in CON if the player on defense sets attack orders on any invasive aircraft, it auto-declares war. My opinion is that it shouldn't auto-declare war.

      A few months back, a Russian Su-24 Fencer was shot down over Turkish air space and they were not at war. There was only an escalation in hostilities. And now that I mention that... "Escalated Hostilities" should be a new relation implemented into the game. It could be auto-activated in situations when invasive aircraft are downed.
    • That would be just annoying imagine getting on a airplane and having to fly around every nation also there is a relation trade embargo to warn them to not use your airspace but if they are gathering Intel send your air force in to escort them shooting down a plane is like war which would end with you fighting that nation
      من المبالغة أن ندعو إعلان حماس والجهاد الإسلامي عن تحالف عسكري. إنها رسالة بأن شعبنا متحد في وجه العدوان الإسرائيلي - أحمد ياسين



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    • Huthayfah.k wrote:

      That would be just annoying imagine getting on a airplane and having to fly around every nation also there is a relation trade embargo to warn them to not use your airspace but if they are gathering Intel send your air force in to escort them shooting down a plane is like war which would end with you fighting that nation
      That's why you use waypoints... But, it's like that realistically. If you don't have any type of military cooperation with another country, you don't get to fly your aircraft over them, unless you get permission (Right of Way, in CON).
    • Huthayfah.k wrote:

      That would be just annoying imagine getting on a airplane and having to fly around every nation also there is a relation trade embargo to warn them to not use your airspace but if they are gathering Intel send your air force in to escort them shooting down a plane is like war which would end with you fighting that nation
      I'm agree with @President Jah here. Every few months, you see that a plane has been shot down over another country's airspace. While this is technically a violation of sovereignty, and the nation whose airspace has been invaded technically can justly declare war (due to the airspace violation), this basically never happens. Instead, you see a lot of sabre-rattling, a bunch of accusations where the country that shot down the plane accuses the other country of invading their airspace, the country that lost its plane says that their plane was in fact outside of the other country's airspace, and then eventually nothing really happens. I definitely think there should be an option to shoot down an outside plane without automatically declaring war. That being said, of course the player who lost the plane would get a notification, and would have the opportunity to choose to manually set the relations to war if they wished, but it would not be the default. Also, if this became a feature, perhaps there would have to be a system where if you had a plane patrolling, and a country that had a relationship of peace or worse with you flew a plane into your plane's patrol radius, your plane would attack it. Thus enabling you to keep round-the-clock air patrols of your territory going.
    • abradyson1 wrote:

      Huthayfah.k wrote:

      That would be just annoying imagine getting on a airplane and having to fly around every nation also there is a relation trade embargo to warn them to not use your airspace but if they are gathering Intel send your air force in to escort them shooting down a plane is like war which would end with you fighting that nation
      I'm agree with @President Jah here. Every few months, you see that a plane has been shot down over another country's airspace. While this is technically a violation of sovereignty, and the nation whose airspace has been invaded technically can justly declare war (due to the airspace violation), this basically never happens. Instead, you see a lot of sabre-rattling, a bunch of accusations where the country that shot down the plane accuses the other country of invading their airspace, the country that lost its plane says that their plane was in fact outside of the other country's airspace, and then eventually nothing really happens. I definitely think there should be an option to shoot down an outside plane without automatically declaring war. That being said, of course the player who lost the plane would get a notification, and would have the opportunity to choose to manually set the relations to war if they wished, but it would not be the default. Also, if this became a feature, perhaps there would have to be a system where if you had a plane patrolling, and a country that had a relationship of peace or worse with you flew a plane into your plane's patrol radius, your plane would attack it. Thus enabling you to keep round-the-clock air patrols of your territory going.
      Spot on! Completely agree with you.
    • Just read this and then try to think about the work involved...

      “I definitely think there should be an option to shoot down an outside plane without automatically declaring war. That being said, of course the player who lost the plane would get a notification, and would have the opportunity to choose to manually set the relations to war if they wished, but it would not be the default. Also, if this became a feature, perhaps there would have to be a system where if you had a plane patrolling, and a country that had a relationship of peace or worse with you flew a plane into your plane's patrol radius, your plane would attack it. Thus enabling you to keep round-the-clock air patrols of your territory going.

      Add to this the feature of war declaring if invading neutral airspace.
      And all of it to automate what can be done in one click: intercept intruding aircraft.

      It’s very easy to write up an idea, but much less simple once you break it down into features and tasks. Additionally, please look at it realistically: if every time an airplane violated neutral airspace war would be declared, our world would long since have ceased to exist. For a time Russia and the US even had dedicated fly over programs.

      You are of course right, that normally you need a ROW agreement to fly over, but just because one nation flies into or onto another nation’s border does not automatically lead to the other nation attacking.
      We thus would need another feature: deny and escort... etc etc etc
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