Insurgents only spawn in cities now? Does this mean, non-city province won't have any chance for insurgencies anymore? Or is this only about spawns after the first spawn?

"Anti Air goes on cooldown even if the target was one-shot"

hahahahhahaha.

I just imagined the total madness of the thing, without that. Good thinking


"Previously close combat and artillery fire would cause AA to go into cooldown state. This has been fixed, and Anti Air only goes on cool down when it fires at Air units now"

This is a very potent boost. Maybe a little too much, we'll see. I mean, the whole incentive when you use soft counters like special forces or ground forces to "silence" anti-air, is to "block them" in close combat. If the anti-air continues to shoot, it closes the windows of many interesting unit synergies.

Need to test that, but i think i can anticipate i will advise for you to put back this bug as a feature lol

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Well, it's not my interceptors idea, but It's definitely a big improvement!

"Insurgents can now Embark/Disembark without the use of harbours"

FUCK

"Previously close combat and artillery fire would cause AA to go into cooldown state. This has been fixed, and Anti Air only goes on cool down when it fires at Air units now"

This was truly needed to artillery mixed with AA stacks. If it works It's a great fix in my opinion. I'm not sure about close combat, but it feels realistic - does anti-air specialized unit should involve to close combat or keep watching air space till the end? I think the second option.

For SAMs and TDS this is logical. Though how about AA-Guns and frigates? They have close combat attack and AA attack. Do they have now two attack per hour?

You know... This is kinda strange. Only TDS and SAM parameters were changed ( no def AA damage), but rest seem unchanged. But is this mean that only TDS and SAM works on new rules? I don't know, I play low-day scenarios currently. So, no proper data for analysis.

But yeah, this is the problem with Mobile Anti-Air Vehicle in their "duality". Well, with ships I don't see any, They actually should use artillery fire and aa fire even same time like some kind of double strike, coz probably handling a cannon or AA turret there, do not require attention of whole crew.

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And this could resolve another annoying stacking problem with Frigates + Cruisers. If stack fire by artillery, AA starts counting, making whole stack vulnerable to airstrike. Yeah, I know - Split, fire, merge again, but I guess that way don't satisfy anyone.

It's hard to complain that the SAM lacks firepower, now, to be honest, hahaha

If this is still an issue in the near future I'd suggest allowing the theater defense system to act as an area of denial for aircraft. That would definitely solve any problem and be realistic.

That's correct Opulon. They are tough now, yet still should be able to overcome with some micro-management (intended - we don't want to kill the fun) and/or the use of specialized units such as special forces or helis.

Explanation: As previously mentioned elsewhere we had set the def values to zero due to a flaw in the design while removing the flaw, but then forgot to update the values leaving them at zero.
This was really not intended and of course easily abused.

@all: sorry for the confusion with the "zeroed" def ratings, and thanks for your objective and valuable feedback... it shows how mature this community is, in many other games this would have simply caused a massive s***storm.

if the values are potent enough, i may come to suggest to "put back" what was handled like a bug, aka "anti-air round denied" when the anti-air is in close combat.

It was a very interesting use of shock combat tactics or special forces.

But at least, if the anti-air play their role accordingly, it will be the end of unilateral air-missile slaughter

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"put back" what was handled like a bug, aka "anti-air round denied when the anti-air is in close combat."

It reminds me sending kamikaze to restart AA counter. I could theoretically airstrike single SF unit into AA doom stack in some city, to keep them busy, and then mass strikers to do the rest (or I've missed something). Looks like 'tricky' feature for me. But, it sounds more reasonable when AA units have def damage. Good if this could be described at #tips-and-tricks on discord channel. Very interesting idea that devs teach community how to play (coz you know, players hides the knowledge to themselves), if there won't be a spam, like it is now.
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You know, maybe this AA giant boost isn't so bad. After all, they are defensive specialized units useless in some cases (eg. vs land build) instead of strike fighters which are produced in masses per every two players to defense and offense from air, ground and sea. Now AA units can calm down strikers for sure.

To be honest, i find this community to be very open and straightforward about what they find within the game scope, that is "über efficient" and disruptive to the game. And many fixes done to the game have been done hearing this fact from trained players that were managing to utterly crush opposition through specific "tricks"


"It reminds me sending kamikaze to restart AA counter. I could theoretically airstrike single SF unit into AA doom stack in some city" ---> Indeed. But in this regard, it would just deny the offensive round, not the point defense.

If the special force is one-shotted, the round resets one minute after by the way. However, you're right that obviously, the goal is to use "the minimum necessary amount" to block the unit.

This said, considering the investment, and potential difficulty of sneaking special forces there, maybe it's "fair" as a design. On this, it's obviously open to differences of point of view.

And globally, yes, it's good that AA is potent.