Teburu wrote:
the initial point that 4x relies way more on activity is still true tho?
The Tortoise and the Hare
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Teburu wrote:
the initial point that 4x relies way more on activity is still true tho?
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ThePanda wrote:
Teburu wrote:
the initial point that 4x relies way more on activity is still true tho?
In X4 you still need skill and much more activity let's say 3 :2
in the first scenario skill ensures u 75% of winning while in the second 60% of winning
There is many factors added and numbers I wrote doesn't mean any thing but u get the general idea. -
abdul_the_brave wrote:
ThePanda wrote:
Teburu wrote:
the initial point that 4x relies way more on activity is still true tho?
in the first scenario skill ensures u 75% of winning while in the second 60% of winning
There is many factors added and numbers I wrote doesn't mean any thing but u get the general idea.
To me, skill includes knowing how much activity you have to bring to a certain map/mode to succeed because that's knowledge that comes with experience. The average activity on different map speeds is observable and should eventually become somewhat predictable for an experienced player. I'd even say it's a vital element to consider in your overall strategy. So, if someone who's switching from regular speed games to 4x for the first time loses with the statement "I had the better strategy but he was just more active", to me that simply implies that person is not yet as experienced/skilled as they thought because they didn't properly factor activity into their strategy - or at all. Finally, if one wanted to go a step further, one could even argue that 4x games require more skill because the higher average activity leads to more unpredictable scenarios that a one-size-fits-all strategy cannot cover without regular adjustments.
But again, that's just my own take on it.
Btw before anyone accuses me of bias: I personally don't enjoy 4x games because they're too exhausting ;P -
not really even mahi the brave, napoleon Bonaparte, khalid ibn el willid would lose with low activity in X4.
Yeah if u can't be very active don't join X4 on the first place. -
Stratieon wrote:
Kalrakh wrote:
Which is exactly a point. That is why they are easier to beat on 4x map, because one day passes there just during your sleep.
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ThePanda wrote:
Teburu wrote:
the initial point that 4x relies way more on activity is still true tho?
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Kalrakh wrote:
Stratieon wrote:
Kalrakh wrote:
Which is exactly a point. That is why they are easier to beat on 4x map, because one day passes there just during your sleep.
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I shall reiterate my opinion: I don't think there's a skill difference. I still plan a day or two ahead on the 1x speed maps. I just don't do 4x maps because I can't be ACTIVE enough to do much. Activity matters a lot here, more than skill, as someone (too lazy to quote) said.
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About 90% of players are easily beatable even with minimal effort and activity if you know what you are doing.
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Kalrakh wrote:
About 90% of players are easily beatable even with minimal effort and activity if you know what you are doing.
How easy it is to beat most players with little investment is no testament to the game mode being good strategically, but rather to the skill, or lack thereof, of most players. Just because your low amount of activity is enough to beat someone who only checks in on their game once a day but isn’t enough to beat someone active doesn’t relate to the relative game skill of you or the second person. -
ThePanda wrote:
Teburu wrote:
the initial point that 4x relies way more on activity is still true tho?
you're gone for 3h? thats like 12h of free ticks in navy vs navy for example. imo its not much of a skill to butcher inactive troops
it's also a considerable amount of time more to find/exploit the weakness of any defence someone might've setupI am The Baseline for opinions -
Yes. And and my point is that's something a skilled player should be aware of when joining 4x games
Yes. And again, that too is something a skilled player should be aware of when joining 4x games -
okay yes so a skilled player will not join X4 as he is aware he can lose over night. In X4 air& tank mix seems best as u can use air very fast to clear every thing over night and tanks to absorb some damage when u r asleep