Brainwashing (or the philosophy and nice quotes thread)

737373elj · Apr 16th 2020, 4:00am

If you have been brainwashed, you won't know you have been brainwashed.
Yet if you are not brainwashed, you won't know you are not brainwashed.
So are we brainwashed? Thoughts?
This is the sort of thing Stratieon may like ;P

EPICNOOB2.0 · Apr 16th 2020, 5:21am

That gives me a headache to think about.

YankovR · Apr 16th 2020, 10:03am

737373elj wrote:

If you have been brainwashed, you won't know you have been brainwashed.
Yet if you are not brainwashed, you won't know you are not brainwashed.
So are we brainwashed? Thoughts?
This is the sort of thing Stratieon may like ;P

If you are able to identify and ridicule the ones that are brainwashed and if u are able to distinguish between scientifically accepted truth and propaganda, it is a good sign that you are NOT brainwashed and you know it

Dealer of Death · Apr 17th 2020, 7:08am

I can not be brainwashed.

My brain is specially designed for Dry-Cleaning only.

737373elj · Apr 21st 2020, 11:09am

Here’s something similar:
Imagine you were taken out of this world into another, identical world, and told; hey, you were living in a simulation the entire time. This isn’t the real world.
Now use those brilliant questioning skills you have. (I was told that Europeans and Americans were good at finding problems) You were taken out of a simulation that you thought was real. How do you know if the world you are in right now is simulated? Should this world not be simulated, You also won’t know if this simulated world is not simulated.
Tl;dr:
If you are being simulated, you won’t know you are being simulated.
If you are not being simulated, you won’t know you are not being simulated.
So are we being simulated?

Teburu · Apr 21st 2020, 11:36am

737373elj wrote:

Here’s something similar:
Imagine you were taken out of this world into another, identical world, and told; hey, you were living in a simulation the entire time. This isn’t the real world.
Now use those brilliant questioning skills you have. (I was told that Europeans and Americans were good at finding problems) You were taken out of a simulation that you thought was real. How do you know if the world you are in right now is simulated? Should this world not be simulated, You also won’t know if this simulated world is not simulated.
Tl;dr:
If you are being simulated, you won’t know you are being simulated.
If you are not being simulated, you won’t know you are not being simulated.
So are we being simulated?

well, anything you could use to proof that this is just a simulation would be part of it?

blue44elephant · Apr 21st 2020, 11:46am

Teburu wrote:

737373elj wrote:

Here’s something similar:
Imagine you were taken out of this world into another, identical world, and told; hey, you were living in a simulation the entire time. This isn’t the real world.
Now use those brilliant questioning skills you have. (I was told that Europeans and Americans were good at finding problems) You were taken out of a simulation that you thought was real. How do you know if the world you are in right now is simulated? Should this world not be simulated, You also won’t know if this simulated world is not simulated.
Tl;dr:
If you are being simulated, you won’t know you are being simulated.
If you are not being simulated, you won’t know you are not being simulated.
So are we being simulated?

well, anything you could use to proof that this is just a simulation would be part of it?

Is death a part of simulation? If yes then we should resurrect another time to be able to die for REAL. Don't report me by the way

Teburu · Apr 21st 2020, 11:51am

blue44elephant wrote:

Teburu wrote:

737373elj wrote:

Here’s something similar:
Imagine you were taken out of this world into another, identical world, and told; hey, you were living in a simulation the entire time. This isn’t the real world.
Now use those brilliant questioning skills you have. (I was told that Europeans and Americans were good at finding problems) You were taken out of a simulation that you thought was real. How do you know if the world you are in right now is simulated? Should this world not be simulated, You also won’t know if this simulated world is not simulated.
Tl;dr:
If you are being simulated, you won’t know you are being simulated.
If you are not being simulated, you won’t know you are not being simulated.
So are we being simulated?

well, anything you could use to proof that this is just a simulation would be part of it?

Is death a part of simulation? If yes then we should resurrect another time to be able to die for REAL. Don't report me by the way

thats this whole afterlife stuff

you’re assuming that if you die in the simulation you don’t die in the real world

blue44elephant · Apr 21st 2020, 12:26pm

Teburu wrote:

blue44elephant wrote:

Teburu wrote:

737373elj wrote:

Here’s something similar:
Imagine you were taken out of this world into another, identical world, and told; hey, you were living in a simulation the entire time. This isn’t the real world.
Now use those brilliant questioning skills you have. (I was told that Europeans and Americans were good at finding problems) You were taken out of a simulation that you thought was real. How do you know if the world you are in right now is simulated? Should this world not be simulated, You also won’t know if this simulated world is not simulated.
Tl;dr:
If you are being simulated, you won’t know you are being simulated.
If you are not being simulated, you won’t know you are not being simulated.
So are we being simulated?

well, anything you could use to proof that this is just a simulation would be part of it?

Is death a part of simulation? If yes then we should resurrect another time to be able to die for REAL. Don't report me by the way

thats this whole afterlife stuff you’re assuming that if you die in the simulation you don’t die in the real world

If this is reality then according fermi paradox we should be extinct by now if we are at our most powerful form right now.

blue44elephant · Apr 21st 2020, 12:28pm

i found this video its in german(good for me)but you can try using google translate.
youtube.com/watch?v=wWSJYr1Lr0E

Kalrakh · Apr 21st 2020, 2:05pm

Marketing brainwashes us since decades. We get brainwashed everyday by media, commercials and some goverments.
Realising it, helps fighting it.

Teburu · Apr 21st 2020, 3:48pm

blue44elephant wrote:

If this is reality then according fermi paradox we should be extinct by now if we are at our most powerful form right now.

well, we're working on that one right now

Kalrakh · Apr 21st 2020, 3:58pm

Our most powerful form? Do you mean we reached our max, we will never get any further? Then this is fermiparadox of it finest.

blue44elephant · Apr 21st 2020, 4:58pm

Kalrakh wrote:

Our most powerful form? Do you mean we reached our max, we will never get any further? Then this is fermiparadox of it finest.

i said that IF we are, then we might go extinct.

737373elj · Apr 22nd 2020, 1:40am

blue44elephant wrote:

i found this video its in german(good for me)but you can try using google translate.
youtube.com/watch?v=wWSJYr1Lr0E

Always been a fan of Kurzgesagt, here’s the English url:

blue44elephant · Apr 22nd 2020, 6:16am

Is this channel popular?

737373elj · Apr 22nd 2020, 6:33am

Idk, I just found it one day

Dealer of Death · Apr 22nd 2020, 11:59pm

737373elj wrote:

Here’s something similar:
Imagine you were taken out of this world into another, identical world, and told; hey, you were living in a simulation the entire time. This isn’t the real world.
Now use those brilliant questioning skills you have. (I was told that Europeans and Americans were good at finding problems) You were taken out of a simulation that you thought was real. How do you know if the world you are in right now is simulated? Should this world not be simulated, You also won’t know if this simulated world is not simulated.
Tl;dr:
If you are being simulated, you won’t know you are being simulated.
If you are not being simulated, you won’t know you are not being simulated.
So are we being simulated?

Obviously CoN is the "real" world, and only people playing a game are simulated.

Dealer of Death · Apr 23rd 2020, 12:02am

Kalrakh wrote:

Marketing brainwashes us since decades. We get brainwashed everyday by media, commercials and some goverments.
Realising it, helps fighting it.

BUY GOLD NOW! IT'S AT A DISCOUNT!! 25% FOR FREE!!!

<I'm joking, don't ban me mods, don't ban me>

Dealer of Death · Apr 23rd 2020, 12:03am

737373elj wrote:

blue44elephant wrote:

i found this video its in german(good for me)but you can try using google translate.
youtube.com/watch?v=wWSJYr1Lr0E

Always been a fan of Kurzgesagt, here’s the English url:

I've watched almost all of Isaac Arthur's videos. Really interesting, even if he does sound like Elmer Fudd.

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